Tom Lonsdale
PHChristy: Welcome, Dr Lonsdale! Good evening and thank you for joining us tonight! DogHobbyist.com is pleased to welcome Dr. Tom Lonsdale, veterinarian and author of the popular and thought provoking book "Raw Meaty Bones Promote Health," as our guest during our Sixth Annual Chat Week. PHChristy: In the 1980s, Dr. Lonsdale noticed that pets that had been brought to the veterinary practice as young animals were showing signs of premature aging and chronic ill-health - in particular the pets suffered from foul breath and rotting teeth and gums - directly attributable to a diet of processed food. PHChristy: Tonight we will get a better understanding as he explains the health benefits animals will experience when fed a proper diet - a diet that does NOT come in a bag or can! PHChristy: If you have questions during the chat, just type them into the room. They will go to Dr. Lonsdale, but not appear in the room until he answers them. TomLonsdale: Terrific to be here thank you for inviting me. Hello from Austalia. PHChristy: Thanks, Dr. Lonsdale, and welcome! I believe you have some opening remarks for us, please go ahead! TomLonsdale: Terrific to be here TomLonsdale: Thank you for the invitation. TomLonsdale: This is a big subject. Let's see how far we can progress TomLonsdale: We need to consider the carnivores TomLonsdale: Cats dogs and ferrets TomLonsdale: but in so doing TomLonsdale: we consider the interest of the animal owners the wider community TomLonsdale: and the natural environment TomLonsdale: I am ready for any questions. PHFlea: If you have a question or comment for our guest, please type it into the room and hit send. It will be sent to the speaker and will only appear in the room when the speaker replies. Questions will be answered in order received. Please note that the whisper mode is disabled during this chat. Please do not use the sound options. Question: Hi Dr. Lonsdale...I have a dog with IBD. It seems the only thing that agrees with him as far as RMB is Chicken. I do change the meats in his veggie mix often and he seems to be doing very well. I'm hoping if it isn't broken then I shouldn't fix it. He's been eating raw for about 3 1/2 years. TomLonsdale: I think we should say first that it is very difficult to make an accurate diagnosis TomLonsdale: even in the consulting room TomLonsdale: and providing detailed dietary TomLonsdale: recommendations. TomLonsdale: can be off beam. TomLonsdale: Sounds to me TomLonsdale: as if you got things very well worked out TomLonsdale: For more detailed discussion TomLonsdale: I would be happy to liase with your vet. Question: I am in dog rescue and all my own dogs and rescues are on the rawfood diet. However when I try to promote it to adopters, I often get the "Eew, bacteria and germ" thing as a reason not to feed it, especially from people in the medical field such as nurses. What is the best way to respond to this? TomLonsdale: by email PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. TomLonsdale: Lots and lots of nutrients are impaired or lost TomLonsdale: by cooking TomLonsdale: That's the chemical aspect TomLonsdale: Physically the food is rendered unsuitable by cooking TomLonsdale: the tough chewy meat is rendered soft and pliable PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: cooked bones change from natures toothbrush to a severe health hazard. TomLonsdale: In respect to bacteria TomLonsdale: the worst bacteria TomLonsdale: arise when food is cooked TomLonsdale: I'm talking about the bacteria on the teeth and gums TomLonsdale: and the heavy overgrowth of harmful bacteria TomLonsdale: in the bowel. PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat. TomLonsdale: As a consequence of this animals get sick in a variety of ways facilitating the growth of TomLonsdale: more unwelcome bacteria frequently affecting the skin TomLonsdale: ears, and internal organs TomLonsdale: . TomLonsdale: So infact, whilst there are one or two problem bacteria TomLonsdale: associated with raw food TomLonsdale: there are as nothing TomLonsdale: by comparison with the vast bacteria consequences PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: of feeding cooked food. PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. TomLonsdale: Tricky one. TomLonsdale: We have dumbed down the population in general TomLonsdale: and the so called experts in particular TomLonsdale: such that they have a huge body of erroneous recieved TomLonsdale: 'wisdom'. TomLonsdale: If you can get the doctors and nurses to go back and reconsider TomLonsdale: their belief systems TomLonsdale: , if you can get them to set aside some of that erroneous information then TomLonsdale: they can become more receptive to natures message. TomLonsdale: The message that Hippocrates communicated about 2000 years ago. PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Question: Loved your new book. When is the movie coming out? I can see it in my mind. It's a great historic story and fascinating battle you and others waged. Question: I, for one, wish to thank you for being so brave to stand up to the pet food manufacurers. TomLonsdale: Thank you for your endorsement TomLonsdale: look forward to seeing you at the movie premiere. TomLonsdale: Happily, there is a movement growing TomLonsdale: which is set to challenge the pet food monster. TomLonsdale: And it is veterinary allies. TomLonsdale: Alison Tyler in Atlanta, GA is coordinating a class action. PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: For details go to www.rawmeatybones.com TomLonsdale: click on Legal Actions Question: Dr. Lonsdale, I am thinking of adding some raw with bones to my cats diet. What do you recommend for starters? They are very healthy but I understand that there is much benefit to raw. TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question. TomLonsdale: Best to be thinking of a complete change over TomLonsdale: to ideally whole carcasses of small prey animals. TomLonsdale: For instance: TomLonsdale: quail TomLonsdale: pigeons TomLonsdale: fish TomLonsdale: rabbit TomLonsdale: rodents TomLonsdale: day old chicks TomLonsdale: But before you freak out TomLonsdale: there is an acceptable TomLonsdale: second best TomLonsdale: based on raw meaty bones TomLonsdale: for instance TomLonsdale: chicken necks TomLonsdale: chicken wings TomLonsdale: rabbit pieces TomLonsdale: fish PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat. TomLonsdale: make sure it's raw fish TomLonsdale: and all of these pieces should be large TomLonsdale: so that your pussy cats lots of time gnawing and ripping and shredding. TomLonsdale: If your pussy cats want a few of your tablescraps that's okay too. Question: Dr. Lonsdale...my vet is fairly ignorant on the subject of raw. The attitude of most vets is a frustrating subject for me. I am wondering if you have seen a noticable change in attitude towards raw in the veterinary community? Also, is there any information that I could give my vet that I can expect her to reasonably read about the *facts* of a raw diet? I gave her a copy of your book, but I daresay she probably never read it. PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: Thanks for your question anderuel TomLonsdale: Sounds like you're trying real hard TomLonsdale: and I can empathize with your frustration TomLonsdale: In many ways attitudes are hardening TomLonsdale: Vets have their backs to the wall TomLonsdale: and there belief systems are clearly phoney. TomLonsdale: Getting them to admit that TomLonsdale: en masse TomLonsdale: is very hard TomLonsdale: some individuals are more willing to discuss. TomLonsdale: I guess as with any new process you can employ carrot and stick TomLonsdale: it's then a matter of ingenuity TomLonsdale: as to the best mix. TomLonsdale: Maybe if you have supplementary questions we can work out TomLonsdale: something more suitable TomLonsdale: As an afterthought TomLonsdale: there is a raw vet discussion group at Yahoo TomLonsdale: although once again TomLonsdale: you can lead the vet to the group TomLonsdale: but you can't make the participate. Question: Hi Tom, Derek from Glasgow - we met last year. Like Lissa, I would like to hear your current thoughts on the amounts of plant matter in a raw diet. Ditto with the amount of bone in the diet. For Info, the EU have new legislation relating primarily to farm animals, but pets have been caught up in it, and the way the legislation has been written (for processed foodstuffs), they are looking for 0% Salmonella, even in raw food! :((( TomLonsdale: Hi Derek TomLonsdale: Good to talk TomLonsdale: Last things first TomLonsdale: can't really comment on the EU salmonella issue TomLonsdale: except that it will require intense lobbying. TomLonsdale: to prevent that sort of nonsense TomLonsdale: being ennacted TomLonsdale: What does the EU TomLonsdale: propose to do about salmonella TomLonsdale: in chicken TomLonsdale: beef TomLonsdale: pork TomLonsdale: and salad vegetables? TomLonsdale: In respect to the first point about plant matter TomLonsdale: in carnivore diets TomLonsdale: it's unfortunate TomLonsdale: that a lot of discussion was skewed TomLonsdale: by the barf concept TomLonsdale: A concept TomLonsdale: that had folks convinced that dogs are omnivores and that cats needs lots of vegetables, too. TomLonsdale: Truth is dogs, cats and ferrets TomLonsdale: should be fed according to natures recipe. TomLonsdale: Not according to the vomit recipe. TomLonsdale: Nature had in mind whole carcasses TomLonsdale: which are there about 65% raw meaty bones TomLonsdale: and the rest viscera. PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat. TomLonsdale: You'll find that such vegetable matter, herbage, in the stomach TomLonsdale: and large intestine TomLonsdale: of prey animals is ignored PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: Effectively, the only plant matter TomLonsdale: consumed is the chyme found in the small intestine TomLonsdale: This is negligible. TomLonsdale: However, pet carnivores seem to do wonderfully well TomLonsdale: on a raw meaty bone diet varying anywhere and 50 and 100% of the diet. TomLonsdale: Thanks. Question: When feediong a raw how do we know if we are giving breeding bitches adequate calcium and phosphorus levels in their feed? TomLonsdale: HI Rueger TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question TomLonsdale: Calcium/Phosphorus ratios TomLonsdale: have been a major concern TomLonsdale: for the junk cooked food producers TomLonsdale: (it's also a major concern, for junk raw food producers who want to mince up meat , bone and supplements TomLonsdale: and sold to an unsuspecting public). TomLonsdale: If you feed your brood bitches TomLonsdale: according to nature's model TomLonsdale: or the acceptable second best TomLonsdale: large raw meaty bone pieces TomLonsdale: and a few scraps TomLonsdale: the calcium/phosphorus ratios will be wonderful TomLonsdale: . PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! Question: Is the raw diet suggested only for healthy cats or dogs? What about cats with kidney problems or former urethra blockage problems? PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Question: Dr. Lonsdale, ferrets are notorious as being finicky about food that has not been introduced early in life to them. I have read that they in fact "imprint" on foods and I know that my fuzzies will only sniff at foods like beef and walk away. Even if I put it directly in their mouths, they will drop it and refuse to eat it. Have you any experience with getting ferrets to accept more natural diets that were not introduced early on, and what type of meats would you recommend? My fuzzies will eat cooked and home-processed chicken meat and offal that I have pureed and serve over kibble. TomLonsdale: HI Cooper TomLonsdale: Well done. TomLonsdale: You've made a start by asking about this. TomLonsdale: Which means that you are fairly well persuaded TomLonsdale: of the need to make the switch TomLonsdale: getting the ferrets to see the wisdom TomLonsdale: may take a little time TomLonsdale: To help you both TomLonsdale: I suggest you make contact with a mentor TomLonsdale: Anna Abney TomLonsdale: is a great tutor who speaks from experience TomLonsdale: You can contact Anna and other helpful enthusiasts TomLonsdale: through the rawfeeding group TomLonsdale: and yahoo groups. PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: Nancy Campbell's raw ferret list NaturalFerrets is also a superb source of good information TomLonsdale: As an afterthough TomLonsdale: Beef is not really suitable for ferrets TomLonsdale: Think small prey animals. TomLonsdale: Rabbit TomLonsdale: Fish TomLonsdale: Quail TomLonsdale: Chicken Question: Our dogs have been eating raw meaty bones now for about 4 months. We are very pleased with their much improved overall condition compared to when they were kibble fed. We too have one with IBD who recently had a sudden onset of pancreatitis, which she has now recovered well from. Our vet has reassured us that her diet probably didn't have anything to do with it since she's done exceptionally well since eating a raw diet. Since her gut has gone through a healing period, do you find it reasonable that she may take longer to get back to her normal intake of RMB's since she is older (9yrs.) and how do you feel about supplements for certain diseases and conditions? Our vet is very open minded in that each dog's situation can differ from the next, therefore be treated according to it's specific needs. She thinks supplements are certainly worth a try. Your thoughts and comments appreciated, Thanks. TomLonsdale: Hi Midnight TomLonsdale: Raw food TomLonsdale: is the best you can do TomLonsdale: for ALL pet carnivores. TomLonsdale: They get the right chemicals PHChristy: The groups Dr. Lonsdale mentioned earlier can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalFerrets and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding TomLonsdale: and the right physical consistency to keep the teeth and gums free of bacteria and toxins. TomLonsdale: Having said that TomLonsdale: there are one or two PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: genetic conditions and strange diseases like hepatic portal shunt TomLonsdale: which may need careful dietary modification. TomLonsdale: Urethral obstruction in cats on the available evidence TomLonsdale: is not one of those conditions TomLonsdale: cats are subject to struvite and oxalate calculi TomLonsdale: a raw diet is the best you can do TomLonsdale: for either. TomLonsdale: Please bear in mind PHFlea: Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat. TomLonsdale: that calculi do not just arise as a result of diet TomLonsdale: the bladder and urethra wall TomLonsdale: and the muscillagenous secretions TomLonsdale: all have a bearing. TomLonsdale: As with all of these diseases TomLonsdale: prevention is the key. TomLonsdale: Cats that are raised on a raw diet and maintained on a raw diet seldom if ever develop urinary calculi.
Question: My Labrador has been eating a raw diet for a little over a year now. She always seems to have coat issues. What can I give her for her dry coat? TomLonsdale: HI, Thanks for the question TomLonsdale: We are venturing into the area of specifics here TomLonsdale: and a consequence we can be missing significant aspects TomLonsdale: Often people assume things are well bearing in mind the patients never speak TomLonsdale: Are the teeth and gums in tip-top condition? TomLonsdale: Is the diet closely modeled on nature's diet? TomLonsdale: If the answer is yes to both of those things TomLonsdale: supplements TomLonsdale: are unlikely to better nature TomLonsdale: and may well do harm. TomLonsdale: Not least the people develop a false crutch TomLonsdale: and of course it costs money TomLonsdale: Which supplements? TomLonsdale: How much? TomLonsdale: How often? TomLonsdale: It's all too nebulous. TomLonsdale: Hope that helps. TomLonsdale: Let's keep treating the whole animal . Not looking at small components. TomLonsdale: And letting them gain disproportionate importance. TomLonsdale: This is a job for the vet. PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: If the vet then finds problems TomLonsdale: he or she can make specific recommendations TomLonsdale: and arrange for ongoing monitoring to assess the effectiveness of the recommendations. TomLonsdale: Some things take time TomLonsdale: maybe the results won't be fully apparant until after the next molt. TomLonsdale: (I'm assuming you have a dog that molts.) PHChristy: molts=sheds? TomLonsdale: Yes. TomLonsdale: Some breeds shed a little all the time and with seasonal molts in summer and winter pulis and poodles TomLonsdale: grow wool continuously. PHChristy: Dr. Lonsdale, we are close to the end of the hour and we have many unanswered questions, are you ok to stick around for a while? TomLonsdale: Christie, yes...let's go. PHChristy: that's great, thank you Tom! PHChristy: Folks, I'll go through all the questions we have pending and see if we can get to them all. Question: From what you said about small mammals being appropriate for ferrets, can that be transferred to dogs? Should small dogs be fed mainly small prey animals (chicken, rabbits, etc.) while larger dogs can be fed meats from larger animals (beef, deer, lamb, etc.)? Or are all types of meats ok for all sizes of dogs? TomLonsdale: Okay TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question TomLonsdale: Chemically speaking TomLonsdale: all types, with an emphasis on game species, fine. TomLonsdale: It's the physical size of the pieces that need to be suited to the physical size TomLonsdale: of the jaws and teeth TomLonsdale: Chicken necks are not suitable for medium to large dogs. TomLonsdale: Although chihuahuas and pomeranians can gain benefit from gnawing TomLonsdale: at lamb necks, oxtail, pig's head TomLonsdale: and the like. TomLonsdale: That way they get a good wash, scrub and polish TomLonsdale: of the working parts. Question: Dr. Lonsdale, I just received you book 2 days ago and my puppy has been eating RMB for 6 days now. I want to know how long it can take a tummy to adjust. He is 5 lbs, eating a little less than 1/2 lb a day, and only chicken at this point. He still has runny stools. Does this mean the bone is just sitting in his tummy or is it being digested? How can I tell? Thanks TomLonsdale: Babs, thanks for the inquery TomLonsdale: The bone is digested TomLonsdale: if the stools are runny TomLonsdale: . TomLonsdale: I don't think you need be concerned that hard bone TomLonsdale: is accumulating in the stomach TomLonsdale: The question then arises TomLonsdale: why are the stools runny TomLonsdale: ? TomLonsdale: It may be to do with a change in the environment in the bowel TomLonsdale: and the body's adjustment to a new food source. TomLonsdale: There could be bacterial issues. TomLonsdale: If this doesn't settle down TomLonsdale: in a couple of days TomLonsdale: or if your puppy seems unwell TomLonsdale: you'll need to see the vet Question: Dr. Lonsdalae, what a thrill to have you with us, today! When it comes to providing a well rounded raw diet, how many different animal sources for RMB's do you see as minimal for optimum health - assuming we're using a 'prey animal' model? TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question TomLonsdale: The research hasn't been done. The hard dependable answer is not available. TomLonsdale: Wolves in the wild TomLonsdale: , for extended periods TomLonsdale: may prey on a single species. TomLonsdale: But at other times a wide range of mammals, birds, fish TomLonsdale: and ocassional reptiles feature in the diet TomLonsdale: . TomLonsdale: I can say that many of my clients only fed chicken TomLonsdale: in large pieces TomLonsdale: as a matter of convenience and economy TomLonsdale: , including raising litters of puppies and kittens TomLonsdale: , without showing any noticable ill-effects TomLonsdale: . TomLonsdale: We should understand this is sub-optimum TomLonsdale: but still light years better than feeding out of the can or the packet. Question: Dr. Lonsdale, it seems as if I'm feeding my dogs a LOT of food since I've switched to raw. None have gained any weight, but none can afford to lose any. It's getting awfully expensive. I love the benefits of raw feeding that I've seen so far, but not sure I can afford to feed 3 large dogs like this long term. I was told the cost was similar to premium kibble, and per pound it's similar, but my dogs are eating FAR more weight than they were with kibble. Any ideas? TomLonsdale: Hi Pitbull TomLonsdale: There's no comparison raw with kibble TomLonsdale: it then comes down to how much your dogs need TomLonsdale: and you can source a regular supply TomLonsdale: conveniently and cheaply TomLonsdale: A new mindset is the most important acquisition TomLonsdale: Think of yourself as a responsible zookeeper TomLonsdale: needing to meet the nutritional requirements of the animals under your care. TomLonsdale: You have large dogs TomLonsdale: you'll need to get a freezer TomLonsdale: and/or seperate refrigerator TomLonsdale: so you can buy in bulk TomLonsdale: Make contact with meat processors TomLonsdale: deer processors in season TomLonsdale: go onto the carnivore-feed supplier list TomLonsdale: at yahoo groups TomLonsdale: Join the rawfeeding list at yahoo groups TomLonsdale: and tap into TomLonsdale: the vast resources TomLonsdale: available. TomLonsdale: With effort you'll come up with a great plan TomLonsdale: which will sustain you all. Question: I hope it's not too late to ask a question. I have a toy breed. Do you still see a lot of mouth problems in toy dogs fed raw? Thanks! TomLonsdale: Hi Angie thanks for the good question TomLonsdale: Yes TomLonsdale: especially if people feed minced raw. TomLonsdale: Minced raw is unsuitable for dogs, cats or ferrets. TomLonsdale: As an aside, would you believe they feed minced raw TomLonsdale: in some zoos, TomLonsdale: shear madness! TomLonsdale: Now, frequently toy breeds are fed chicken necks TomLonsdale: and chicken wings cut up in pieces TomLonsdale: . TomLonsdale: The number one rule is TomLonsdale: don't pre-process the food TomLonsdale: ensure that your small carnivores TomLonsdale: do the processing themselves TomLonsdale: For instance, large pieces of chicken, or rabbits or fish TomLonsdale: can predominate TomLonsdale: but a couple of times a week it's a good idea TomLonsdale: to feed a large raw meaty bone TomLonsdale: for instance a lamb shank TomLonsdale: a sheeps head TomLonsdale: oxtail TomLonsdale: that the toy breeds TomLonsdale: can only gnaw the meat off TomLonsdale: without actually eating the bone TomLonsdale: It's a joy to behold TomLonsdale: and that's what keeps the mouth in good order. TomLonsdale: There is a reason why toy breeds TomLonsdale: are prone to dental problems TomLonsdale: the tooth surface area relative to TomLonsdale: jawbone mass TomLonsdale: is out of whack TomLonsdale: The small carnivores TomLonsdale: need more cleaning TomLonsdale: of the working parts TomLonsdale: not less. Question: Any way we can get involved with the movement? TomLonsdale: Good on ya Liz TomLonsdale: Yea TomLonsdale: It's time we progressed beyond just talking we need to start taking action TomLonsdale: As individuals we can start to lobby and pressure TomLonsdale: our veterinarians TomLonsdale: our veterinary schools TomLonsdale: and our political representatives TomLonsdale: In the UK at the moment TomLonsdale: a fabulous opportunity as arisen TomLonsdale: The British government is looking at the way vets are regulated TomLonsdale: and the way they do business. TomLonsdale: Previously vets have only been accountable to themselves TomLonsdale: and have failed to serve the community in this vital respect TomLonsdale: I would encourage all TomLonsdale: to check out the last two newsletters at www.rawmeatybones.com TomLonsdale: . PHChristy: Newsletter 1 Question: Newsletter 2 TomLonsdale: You can find the newsletters by clicking on the scroll down menue TomLonsdale: in the top left hand corner TomLonsdale: of the homepage. PHChristy: or on the links I just posted PHChristy: they are the same I emailed out earlier as well TomLonsdale: There you will find details on how to help make a historic difference. TomLonsdale: Oh good Christie, well done. PHChristy: :) TomLonsdale: This is an ongoing process TomLonsdale: if you subscribe to the newsletter TomLonsdale: I'll hope to keep people posted Question: will the raw diet help with anxiety issue dogs, as far as behavior and/or weight? TomLonsdale: Thank you. TomLonsdale: Yes, absolutely. TomLonsdale: That is the first thing to get underway. TomLonsdale: It's amazing how animals that are too thin TomLonsdale: too fat TomLonsdale: or too flaccid TomLonsdale: become trim, taut and terrific TomLonsdale: when fed a natural diet. PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale! TomLonsdale: Dog trainers, owners and veterinarians report TomLonsdale: anxiety disorders TomLonsdale: attention span deficits TomLonsdale: and unpredictable aggression Question: coastalbirdhouse, Dr. Lonsdale is answering your question right now.... TomLonsdale: than feeding a natural diet TomLonsdale: In a sense I shouldn't say with nothing more. TomLonsdale: Changing from an artificial diet means removing hundreds TomLonsdale: perhaps thousands TomLonsdale: of unwelcome poisons TomLonsdale: and toxic processes TomLonsdale: and replacing them with nature's answer TomLonsdale: Let's be clear on this TomLonsdale: nature does not make the arbitrary distinction between TomLonsdale: food and medicine TomLonsdale: They are conjoined as one TomLonsdale: Naturally fed animals are nourished and are on the perfect preventative TomLonsdale: medicine protocol TomLonsdale: As an afterthought TomLonsdale: I would encourage people TomLonsdale: to read more about this TomLonsdale: and there are segments on obesity TomLonsdale: and behavior issues TomLonsdale: in the book TomLonsdale: Raw Meaty Bones PHChristy: You can read more about Dr. Lonsdale's book at http://www.rawmeatybones.com or on our website at http://www.doghobbyist.com/articles/TomLonsdale.html Question: Dr Lonsdale, how much do you think that the financial benefit vets receive from sales of prescription foods, and treatment of ailing animals who are suffering from pet food related illnesses feeds into their resistance to raw? TomLonsdale: Immensely TomLonsdale: It's just interesting that veterinarians TomLonsdale: who are otherwise sane and clear thinking TomLonsdale: with good hearing TomLonsdale: vision TomLonsdale: and powers of speech TomLonsdale: become like the three monkeys TomLonsdale: that will hear no evil TomLonsdale: see no evil TomLonsdale: nor speak no evil TomLonsdale: against the pet food cult TomLonsdale: A variety of explanations can be used TomLonsdale: but I believe it's largely ego TomLonsdale: and financially driven TomLonsdale: Thank you everybody TomLonsdale: for your searching questions TomLonsdale: and for giving me the opportunity to present my views TomLonsdale: I very much hope TomLonsdale: , TomLonsdale: in fact I believe, that we are building on something important TomLonsdale: and I wish you all well TomLonsdale: in your efforts to carry the message to a wider community. TomLonsdale: You are the pioneers TomLonsdale: I wish you well. PHChristy: Dr. Lonsdale, on behalf of all of us at DogHobbyist.com thank you so much for being our guest tonight! And thank you to all of you who attended. PHChristy: The link to the transcript of this chat will be posted within one week at http://www.doghobbyist.com/DogChat2003.html, and I will email the link to the reminder list PHChristy: Please be sure to join us Monday night at 10 PM Eastern in the Auditorium, when our guest will be Melody Pugh "The Pet Detective". For information on all our Chat Week events, please visit http://www.doghobbyist.com/DogChat.html TomLonsdale: Christie, thank you again. :-) PHChristy: Tom, thank YOU! It was a real pleasure! PHChristy: Thank you everyone for being here! PHFlea: Thank you Tom!! PHFlea: Thank you everyone, hope to see you all tomorrow night!!
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As part of PetHobbyist.com's Sixth Annual Chat Week, DogHobbyist.com, CatHobbyist.com, and ExoticHobbyist.com welcomed Dr. Tom Lonsdale as our special guest on Sunday, December 7, at 9 PM Eastern, for a discussion of natural diets for dogs, cats, and ferrets, and related health issues. Dr. Lonsdale is the author of the popular and thought-provoking