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Tom Lonsdale

Dr. Tom LonsdaleAs part of PetHobbyist.com's Sixth Annual Chat Week, DogHobbyist.com, CatHobbyist.com, and ExoticHobbyist.com welcomed Dr. Tom Lonsdale as our special guest on Sunday, December 7, at 9 PM Eastern, for a discussion of natural diets for dogs, cats, and ferrets, and related health issues. Dr. Lonsdale is the author of the popular and thought-provoking Raw Meaty Bones Promote Health, in which he explains the health benefits animals will experience when fed a proper diet - a diet that does NOT come in a bag or can!

PHChristy: Welcome, Dr Lonsdale! Good evening and thank you for joining us tonight! DogHobbyist.com is pleased to welcome Dr. Tom Lonsdale, veterinarian and author of the popular and thought provoking book "Raw Meaty Bones Promote Health," as our guest during our Sixth Annual Chat Week.

PHChristy: In the 1980s, Dr. Lonsdale noticed that pets that had been brought to the veterinary practice as young animals were showing signs of premature aging and chronic ill-health - in particular the pets suffered from foul breath and rotting teeth and gums - directly attributable to a diet of processed food.

PHChristy: Tonight we will get a better understanding as he explains the health benefits animals will experience when fed a proper diet - a diet that does NOT come in a bag or can!

PHChristy: If you have questions during the chat, just type them into the room. They will go to Dr. Lonsdale, but not appear in the room until he answers them.

TomLonsdale: Terrific to be here thank you for inviting me. Hello from Austalia.

PHChristy: Thanks, Dr. Lonsdale, and welcome! I believe you have some opening remarks for us, please go ahead!

TomLonsdale: Terrific to be here

TomLonsdale: Thank you for the invitation.

TomLonsdale: This is a big subject. Let's see how far we can progress

TomLonsdale: We need to consider the carnivores

TomLonsdale: Cats dogs and ferrets

TomLonsdale: but in so doing

TomLonsdale: we consider the interest of the animal owners the wider community

TomLonsdale: and the natural environment

TomLonsdale: I am ready for any questions.

PHFlea: If you have a question or comment for our guest, please type it into the room and hit send. It will be sent to the speaker and will only appear in the room when the speaker replies. Questions will be answered in order received. Please note that the whisper mode is disabled during this chat. Please do not use the sound options.

Question: Hi Dr. Lonsdale...I have a dog with IBD. It seems the only thing that agrees with him as far as RMB is Chicken. I do change the meats in his veggie mix often and he seems to be doing very well. I'm hoping if it isn't broken then I shouldn't fix it. He's been eating raw for about 3 1/2 years.

TomLonsdale: I think we should say first that it is very difficult to make an accurate diagnosis

TomLonsdale: even in the consulting room

TomLonsdale: and providing detailed dietary

TomLonsdale: recommendations.

TomLonsdale: can be off beam.

TomLonsdale: Sounds to me

TomLonsdale: as if you got things very well worked out

TomLonsdale: For more detailed discussion

TomLonsdale: I would be happy to liase with your vet.

Question: I am in dog rescue and all my own dogs and rescues are on the rawfood diet. However when I try to promote it to adopters, I often get the "Eew, bacteria and germ" thing as a reason not to feed it, especially from people in the medical field such as nurses. What is the best way to respond to this?

TomLonsdale: by email

PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it.

TomLonsdale: Lots and lots of nutrients are impaired or lost

TomLonsdale: by cooking

TomLonsdale: That's the chemical aspect

TomLonsdale: Physically the food is rendered unsuitable by cooking

TomLonsdale: the tough chewy meat is rendered soft and pliable

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: cooked bones change from natures toothbrush to a severe health hazard.

TomLonsdale: In respect to bacteria

TomLonsdale: the worst bacteria

TomLonsdale: arise when food is cooked

TomLonsdale: I'm talking about the bacteria on the teeth and gums

TomLonsdale: and the heavy overgrowth of harmful bacteria

TomLonsdale: in the bowel.

PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat.

TomLonsdale: As a consequence of this animals get sick in a variety of ways facilitating the growth of

TomLonsdale: more unwelcome bacteria frequently affecting the skin

TomLonsdale: ears, and internal organs

TomLonsdale: .

TomLonsdale: So infact, whilst there are one or two problem bacteria

TomLonsdale: associated with raw food

TomLonsdale: there are as nothing

TomLonsdale: by comparison with the vast bacteria consequences

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: of feeding cooked food.

PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it.

TomLonsdale: Tricky one.

TomLonsdale: We have dumbed down the population in general

TomLonsdale: and the so called experts in particular

TomLonsdale: such that they have a huge body of erroneous recieved

TomLonsdale: 'wisdom'.

TomLonsdale: If you can get the doctors and nurses to go back and reconsider

TomLonsdale: their belief systems

TomLonsdale: , if you can get them to set aside some of that erroneous information then

TomLonsdale: they can become more receptive to natures message.

TomLonsdale: The message that Hippocrates communicated about 2000 years ago.

PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it.

Question: Loved your new book. When is the movie coming out? I can see it in my mind. It's a great historic story and fascinating battle you and others waged.

Question: I, for one, wish to thank you for being so brave to stand up to the pet food manufacurers.

TomLonsdale: Thank you for your endorsement

TomLonsdale: look forward to seeing you at the movie premiere.

TomLonsdale: Happily, there is a movement growing

TomLonsdale: which is set to challenge the pet food monster.

TomLonsdale: And it is veterinary allies.

TomLonsdale: Alison Tyler in Atlanta, GA is coordinating a class action.

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: For details go to www.rawmeatybones.com

TomLonsdale: click on Legal Actions

Question: Dr. Lonsdale, I am thinking of adding some raw with bones to my cats diet. What do you recommend for starters? They are very healthy but I understand that there is much benefit to raw.

TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question.

TomLonsdale: Best to be thinking of a complete change over

TomLonsdale: to ideally whole carcasses of small prey animals.

TomLonsdale: For instance:

TomLonsdale: quail

TomLonsdale: pigeons

TomLonsdale: fish

TomLonsdale: rabbit

TomLonsdale: rodents

TomLonsdale: day old chicks

TomLonsdale: But before you freak out

TomLonsdale: there is an acceptable

TomLonsdale: second best

TomLonsdale: based on raw meaty bones

TomLonsdale: for instance

TomLonsdale: chicken necks

TomLonsdale: chicken wings

TomLonsdale: rabbit pieces

TomLonsdale: fish

PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat.

TomLonsdale: make sure it's raw fish

TomLonsdale: and all of these pieces should be large

TomLonsdale: so that your pussy cats lots of time gnawing and ripping and shredding.

TomLonsdale: If your pussy cats want a few of your tablescraps that's okay too.

Question: Dr. Lonsdale...my vet is fairly ignorant on the subject of raw. The attitude of most vets is a frustrating subject for me. I am wondering if you have seen a noticable change in attitude towards raw in the veterinary community? Also, is there any information that I could give my vet that I can expect her to reasonably read about the *facts* of a raw diet? I gave her a copy of your book, but I daresay she probably never read it.

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: Thanks for your question anderuel

TomLonsdale: Sounds like you're trying real hard

TomLonsdale: and I can empathize with your frustration

TomLonsdale: In many ways attitudes are hardening

TomLonsdale: Vets have their backs to the wall

TomLonsdale: and there belief systems are clearly phoney.

TomLonsdale: Getting them to admit that

TomLonsdale: en masse

TomLonsdale: is very hard

TomLonsdale: some individuals are more willing to discuss.

TomLonsdale: I guess as with any new process you can employ carrot and stick

TomLonsdale: it's then a matter of ingenuity

TomLonsdale: as to the best mix.

TomLonsdale: Maybe if you have supplementary questions we can work out

TomLonsdale: something more suitable

TomLonsdale: As an afterthought

TomLonsdale: there is a raw vet discussion group at Yahoo

TomLonsdale: although once again

TomLonsdale: you can lead the vet to the group

TomLonsdale: but you can't make the participate.

Question: Hi Tom, Derek from Glasgow - we met last year. Like Lissa, I would like to hear your current thoughts on the amounts of plant matter in a raw diet. Ditto with the amount of bone in the diet. For Info, the EU have new legislation relating primarily to farm animals, but pets have been caught up in it, and the way the legislation has been written (for processed foodstuffs), they are looking for 0% Salmonella, even in raw food! :(((

TomLonsdale: Hi Derek

TomLonsdale: Good to talk

TomLonsdale: Last things first

TomLonsdale: can't really comment on the EU salmonella issue

TomLonsdale: except that it will require intense lobbying.

TomLonsdale: to prevent that sort of nonsense

TomLonsdale: being ennacted

TomLonsdale: What does the EU

TomLonsdale: propose to do about salmonella

TomLonsdale: in chicken

TomLonsdale: beef

TomLonsdale: pork

TomLonsdale: and salad vegetables?

TomLonsdale: In respect to the first point about plant matter

TomLonsdale: in carnivore diets

TomLonsdale: it's unfortunate

TomLonsdale: that a lot of discussion was skewed

TomLonsdale: by the barf concept

TomLonsdale: A concept

TomLonsdale: that had folks convinced that dogs are omnivores and that cats needs lots of vegetables, too.

TomLonsdale: Truth is dogs, cats and ferrets

TomLonsdale: should be fed according to natures recipe.

TomLonsdale: Not according to the vomit recipe.

TomLonsdale: Nature had in mind whole carcasses

TomLonsdale: which are there about 65% raw meaty bones

TomLonsdale: and the rest viscera.

PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it. Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat.

TomLonsdale: You'll find that such vegetable matter, herbage, in the stomach

TomLonsdale: and large intestine

TomLonsdale: of prey animals is ignored

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: Effectively, the only plant matter

TomLonsdale: consumed is the chyme found in the small intestine

TomLonsdale: This is negligible.

TomLonsdale: However, pet carnivores seem to do wonderfully well

TomLonsdale: on a raw meaty bone diet varying anywhere and 50 and 100% of the diet.

TomLonsdale: Thanks.

Question: When feediong a raw how do we know if we are giving breeding bitches adequate calcium and phosphorus levels in their feed?

TomLonsdale: HI Rueger

TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question

TomLonsdale: Calcium/Phosphorus ratios

TomLonsdale: have been a major concern

TomLonsdale: for the junk cooked food producers

TomLonsdale: (it's also a major concern, for junk raw food producers who want to mince up meat , bone and supplements

TomLonsdale: and sold to an unsuspecting public).

TomLonsdale: If you feed your brood bitches

TomLonsdale: according to nature's model

TomLonsdale: or the acceptable second best

TomLonsdale: large raw meaty bone pieces

TomLonsdale: and a few scraps

TomLonsdale: the calcium/phosphorus ratios will be wonderful

TomLonsdale: .

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

Question: Is the raw diet suggested only for healthy cats or dogs? What about cats with kidney problems or former urethra blockage problems?

PHFlea: If you have a question for Dr. Lonsdale, just type it into the chat room. It will be sent to him for his response, but not appear in the chat window until he answers it.

Question: Dr. Lonsdale, ferrets are notorious as being finicky about food that has not been introduced early in life to them. I have read that they in fact "imprint" on foods and I know that my fuzzies will only sniff at foods like beef and walk away. Even if I put it directly in their mouths, they will drop it and refuse to eat it. Have you any experience with getting ferrets to accept more natural diets that were not introduced early on, and what type of meats would you recommend? My fuzzies will eat cooked and home-processed chicken meat and offal that I have pureed and serve over kibble.

TomLonsdale: HI Cooper

TomLonsdale: Well done.

TomLonsdale: You've made a start by asking about this.

TomLonsdale: Which means that you are fairly well persuaded

TomLonsdale: of the need to make the switch

TomLonsdale: getting the ferrets to see the wisdom

TomLonsdale: may take a little time

TomLonsdale: To help you both

TomLonsdale: I suggest you make contact with a mentor

TomLonsdale: Anna Abney

TomLonsdale: is a great tutor who speaks from experience

TomLonsdale: You can contact Anna and other helpful enthusiasts

TomLonsdale: through the rawfeeding group

TomLonsdale: and yahoo groups.

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: Nancy Campbell's raw ferret list NaturalFerrets is also a superb source of good information

TomLonsdale: As an afterthough

TomLonsdale: Beef is not really suitable for ferrets

TomLonsdale: Think small prey animals.

TomLonsdale: Rabbit

TomLonsdale: Fish

TomLonsdale: Quail

TomLonsdale: Chicken

Question: Our dogs have been eating raw meaty bones now for about 4 months. We are very pleased with their much improved overall condition compared to when they were kibble fed. We too have one with IBD who recently had a sudden onset of pancreatitis, which she has now recovered well from. Our vet has reassured us that her diet probably didn't have anything to do with it since she's done exceptionally well since eating a raw diet. Since her gut has gone through a healing period, do you find it reasonable that she may take longer to get back to her normal intake of RMB's since she is older (9yrs.) and how do you feel about supplements for certain diseases and conditions? Our vet is very open minded in that each dog's situation can differ from the next, therefore be treated according to it's specific needs. She thinks supplements are certainly worth a try. Your thoughts and comments appreciated, Thanks.

TomLonsdale: Hi Midnight

TomLonsdale: Raw food

TomLonsdale: is the best you can do

TomLonsdale: for ALL pet carnivores.

TomLonsdale: They get the right chemicals

PHChristy: The groups Dr. Lonsdale mentioned earlier can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalFerrets and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding

TomLonsdale: and the right physical consistency to keep the teeth and gums free of bacteria and toxins.

TomLonsdale: Having said that

TomLonsdale: there are one or two

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: genetic conditions and strange diseases like hepatic portal shunt

TomLonsdale: which may need careful dietary modification.

TomLonsdale: Urethral obstruction in cats on the available evidence

TomLonsdale: is not one of those conditions

TomLonsdale: cats are subject to struvite and oxalate calculi

TomLonsdale: a raw diet is the best you can do

TomLonsdale: for either.

TomLonsdale: Please bear in mind

PHFlea: Notice: Sounds, emoticons, and the "whisper" feature have been disabled during our guest chat.

TomLonsdale: that calculi do not just arise as a result of diet

TomLonsdale: the bladder and urethra wall

TomLonsdale: and the muscillagenous secretions

TomLonsdale: all have a bearing.

TomLonsdale: As with all of these diseases

TomLonsdale: prevention is the key.

TomLonsdale: Cats that are raised on a raw diet and maintained on a raw diet seldom if ever develop urinary calculi.

Question: My Labrador has been eating a raw diet for a little over a year now. She always seems to have coat issues. What can I give her for her dry coat?

TomLonsdale: HI, Thanks for the question

TomLonsdale: We are venturing into the area of specifics here

TomLonsdale: and a consequence we can be missing significant aspects

TomLonsdale: Often people assume things are well bearing in mind the patients never speak

TomLonsdale: Are the teeth and gums in tip-top condition?

TomLonsdale: Is the diet closely modeled on nature's diet?

TomLonsdale: If the answer is yes to both of those things

TomLonsdale: supplements

TomLonsdale: are unlikely to better nature

TomLonsdale: and may well do harm.

TomLonsdale: Not least the people develop a false crutch

TomLonsdale: and of course it costs money

TomLonsdale: Which supplements?

TomLonsdale: How much?

TomLonsdale: How often?

TomLonsdale: It's all too nebulous.

TomLonsdale: Hope that helps.

TomLonsdale: Let's keep treating the whole animal . Not looking at small components.

TomLonsdale: And letting them gain disproportionate importance.

TomLonsdale: This is a job for the vet.

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: If the vet then finds problems

TomLonsdale: he or she can make specific recommendations

TomLonsdale: and arrange for ongoing monitoring to assess the effectiveness of the recommendations.

TomLonsdale: Some things take time

TomLonsdale: maybe the results won't be fully apparant until after the next molt.

TomLonsdale: (I'm assuming you have a dog that molts.)

PHChristy: molts=sheds?

TomLonsdale: Yes.

TomLonsdale: Some breeds shed a little all the time and with seasonal molts in summer and winter pulis and poodles

TomLonsdale: grow wool continuously.

PHChristy: Dr. Lonsdale, we are close to the end of the hour and we have many unanswered questions, are you ok to stick around for a while?

TomLonsdale: Christie, yes...let's go.

PHChristy: that's great, thank you Tom!

PHChristy: Folks, I'll go through all the questions we have pending and see if we can get to them all.

Question: From what you said about small mammals being appropriate for ferrets, can that be transferred to dogs? Should small dogs be fed mainly small prey animals (chicken, rabbits, etc.) while larger dogs can be fed meats from larger animals (beef, deer, lamb, etc.)? Or are all types of meats ok for all sizes of dogs? TomLonsdale: Okay

TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question

TomLonsdale: Chemically speaking

TomLonsdale: all types, with an emphasis on game species, fine.

TomLonsdale: It's the physical size of the pieces that need to be suited to the physical size

TomLonsdale: of the jaws and teeth

TomLonsdale: Chicken necks are not suitable for medium to large dogs.

TomLonsdale: Although chihuahuas and pomeranians can gain benefit from gnawing

TomLonsdale: at lamb necks, oxtail, pig's head

TomLonsdale: and the like.

TomLonsdale: That way they get a good wash, scrub and polish

TomLonsdale: of the working parts.

Question: Dr. Lonsdale, I just received you book 2 days ago and my puppy has been eating RMB for 6 days now. I want to know how long it can take a tummy to adjust. He is 5 lbs, eating a little less than 1/2 lb a day, and only chicken at this point. He still has runny stools. Does this mean the bone is just sitting in his tummy or is it being digested? How can I tell? Thanks

TomLonsdale: Babs, thanks for the inquery

TomLonsdale: The bone is digested

TomLonsdale: if the stools are runny

TomLonsdale: .

TomLonsdale: I don't think you need be concerned that hard bone

TomLonsdale: is accumulating in the stomach

TomLonsdale: The question then arises

TomLonsdale: why are the stools runny

TomLonsdale: ?

TomLonsdale: It may be to do with a change in the environment in the bowel

TomLonsdale: and the body's adjustment to a new food source.

TomLonsdale: There could be bacterial issues.

TomLonsdale: If this doesn't settle down

TomLonsdale: in a couple of days

TomLonsdale: or if your puppy seems unwell

TomLonsdale: you'll need to see the vet

Question: Dr. Lonsdalae, what a thrill to have you with us, today! When it comes to providing a well rounded raw diet, how many different animal sources for RMB's do you see as minimal for optimum health - assuming we're using a 'prey animal' model?

TomLonsdale: Thanks for the question

TomLonsdale: The research hasn't been done. The hard dependable answer is not available.

TomLonsdale: Wolves in the wild

TomLonsdale: , for extended periods

TomLonsdale: may prey on a single species.

TomLonsdale: But at other times a wide range of mammals, birds, fish

TomLonsdale: and ocassional reptiles feature in the diet

TomLonsdale: .

TomLonsdale: I can say that many of my clients only fed chicken

TomLonsdale: in large pieces

TomLonsdale: as a matter of convenience and economy

TomLonsdale: , including raising litters of puppies and kittens

TomLonsdale: , without showing any noticable ill-effects

TomLonsdale: .

TomLonsdale: We should understand this is sub-optimum

TomLonsdale: but still light years better than feeding out of the can or the packet.

Question: Dr. Lonsdale, it seems as if I'm feeding my dogs a LOT of food since I've switched to raw. None have gained any weight, but none can afford to lose any. It's getting awfully expensive. I love the benefits of raw feeding that I've seen so far, but not sure I can afford to feed 3 large dogs like this long term. I was told the cost was similar to premium kibble, and per pound it's similar, but my dogs are eating FAR more weight than they were with kibble. Any ideas?

TomLonsdale: Hi Pitbull

TomLonsdale: There's no comparison raw with kibble

TomLonsdale: it then comes down to how much your dogs need

TomLonsdale: and you can source a regular supply

TomLonsdale: conveniently and cheaply

TomLonsdale: A new mindset is the most important acquisition

TomLonsdale: Think of yourself as a responsible zookeeper

TomLonsdale: needing to meet the nutritional requirements of the animals under your care.

TomLonsdale: You have large dogs

TomLonsdale: you'll need to get a freezer

TomLonsdale: and/or seperate refrigerator

TomLonsdale: so you can buy in bulk

TomLonsdale: Make contact with meat processors

TomLonsdale: deer processors in season

TomLonsdale: go onto the carnivore-feed supplier list

TomLonsdale: at yahoo groups

TomLonsdale: Join the rawfeeding list at yahoo groups

TomLonsdale: and tap into

TomLonsdale: the vast resources

TomLonsdale: available.

TomLonsdale: With effort you'll come up with a great plan

TomLonsdale: which will sustain you all.

Question: I hope it's not too late to ask a question. I have a toy breed. Do you still see a lot of mouth problems in toy dogs fed raw? Thanks!

TomLonsdale: Hi Angie thanks for the good question

TomLonsdale: Yes

TomLonsdale: especially if people feed minced raw.

TomLonsdale: Minced raw is unsuitable for dogs, cats or ferrets.

TomLonsdale: As an aside, would you believe they feed minced raw

TomLonsdale: in some zoos,

TomLonsdale: shear madness!

TomLonsdale: Now, frequently toy breeds are fed chicken necks

TomLonsdale: and chicken wings cut up in pieces

TomLonsdale: .

TomLonsdale: The number one rule is

TomLonsdale: don't pre-process the food

TomLonsdale: ensure that your small carnivores

TomLonsdale: do the processing themselves

TomLonsdale: For instance, large pieces of chicken, or rabbits or fish

TomLonsdale: can predominate

TomLonsdale: but a couple of times a week it's a good idea

TomLonsdale: to feed a large raw meaty bone

TomLonsdale: for instance a lamb shank

TomLonsdale: a sheeps head

TomLonsdale: oxtail

TomLonsdale: that the toy breeds

TomLonsdale: can only gnaw the meat off

TomLonsdale: without actually eating the bone

TomLonsdale: It's a joy to behold

TomLonsdale: and that's what keeps the mouth in good order.

TomLonsdale: There is a reason why toy breeds

TomLonsdale: are prone to dental problems

TomLonsdale: the tooth surface area relative to

TomLonsdale: jawbone mass

TomLonsdale: is out of whack

TomLonsdale: The small carnivores

TomLonsdale: need more cleaning

TomLonsdale: of the working parts

TomLonsdale: not less.

Question: Any way we can get involved with the movement?

TomLonsdale: Good on ya Liz

TomLonsdale: Yea

TomLonsdale: It's time we progressed beyond just talking we need to start taking action

TomLonsdale: As individuals we can start to lobby and pressure

TomLonsdale: our veterinarians

TomLonsdale: our veterinary schools

TomLonsdale: and our political representatives

TomLonsdale: In the UK at the moment

TomLonsdale: a fabulous opportunity as arisen

TomLonsdale: The British government is looking at the way vets are regulated

TomLonsdale: and the way they do business.

TomLonsdale: Previously vets have only been accountable to themselves

TomLonsdale: and have failed to serve the community in this vital respect

TomLonsdale: I would encourage all

TomLonsdale: to check out the last two newsletters at www.rawmeatybones.com

TomLonsdale: .

PHChristy: Newsletter 1

Question: Newsletter 2

TomLonsdale: You can find the newsletters by clicking on the scroll down menue

TomLonsdale: in the top left hand corner

TomLonsdale: of the homepage.

PHChristy: or on the links I just posted

PHChristy: they are the same I emailed out earlier as well

TomLonsdale: There you will find details on how to help make a historic difference.

TomLonsdale: Oh good Christie, well done.

PHChristy: :)

TomLonsdale: This is an ongoing process

TomLonsdale: if you subscribe to the newsletter

TomLonsdale: I'll hope to keep people posted

Question: will the raw diet help with anxiety issue dogs, as far as behavior and/or weight?

TomLonsdale: Thank you.

TomLonsdale: Yes, absolutely.

TomLonsdale: That is the first thing to get underway.

TomLonsdale: It's amazing how animals that are too thin

TomLonsdale: too fat

TomLonsdale: or too flaccid

TomLonsdale: become trim, taut and terrific

TomLonsdale: when fed a natural diet.

PHFlea: Welcome to our special guest chat with Dr. Tom Lonsdale!

TomLonsdale: Dog trainers, owners and veterinarians report

TomLonsdale: anxiety disorders

TomLonsdale: attention span deficits

TomLonsdale: and unpredictable aggression

Question: coastalbirdhouse, Dr. Lonsdale is answering your question right now....

TomLonsdale: than feeding a natural diet

TomLonsdale: In a sense I shouldn't say with nothing more.

TomLonsdale: Changing from an artificial diet means removing hundreds

TomLonsdale: perhaps thousands

TomLonsdale: of unwelcome poisons

TomLonsdale: and toxic processes

TomLonsdale: and replacing them with nature's answer

TomLonsdale: Let's be clear on this

TomLonsdale: nature does not make the arbitrary distinction between

TomLonsdale: food and medicine

TomLonsdale: They are conjoined as one

TomLonsdale: Naturally fed animals are nourished and are on the perfect preventative

TomLonsdale: medicine protocol

TomLonsdale: As an afterthought

TomLonsdale: I would encourage people

TomLonsdale: to read more about this

TomLonsdale: and there are segments on obesity

TomLonsdale: and behavior issues

TomLonsdale: in the book

TomLonsdale: Raw Meaty Bones

PHChristy: You can read more about Dr. Lonsdale's book at http://www.rawmeatybones.com or on our website at http://www.doghobbyist.com/articles/TomLonsdale.html

Question: Dr Lonsdale, how much do you think that the financial benefit vets receive from sales of prescription foods, and treatment of ailing animals who are suffering from pet food related illnesses feeds into their resistance to raw?

TomLonsdale: Immensely

TomLonsdale: It's just interesting that veterinarians

TomLonsdale: who are otherwise sane and clear thinking

TomLonsdale: with good hearing

TomLonsdale: vision

TomLonsdale: and powers of speech

TomLonsdale: become like the three monkeys

TomLonsdale: that will hear no evil

TomLonsdale: see no evil

TomLonsdale: nor speak no evil

TomLonsdale: against the pet food cult

TomLonsdale: A variety of explanations can be used

TomLonsdale: but I believe it's largely ego

TomLonsdale: and financially driven

TomLonsdale: Thank you everybody

TomLonsdale: for your searching questions

TomLonsdale: and for giving me the opportunity to present my views

TomLonsdale: I very much hope

TomLonsdale: ,

TomLonsdale: in fact I believe, that we are building on something important

TomLonsdale: and I wish you all well

TomLonsdale: in your efforts to carry the message to a wider community.

TomLonsdale: You are the pioneers

TomLonsdale: I wish you well.

PHChristy: Dr. Lonsdale, on behalf of all of us at DogHobbyist.com thank you so much for being our guest tonight! And thank you to all of you who attended.

PHChristy: The link to the transcript of this chat will be posted within one week at http://www.doghobbyist.com/DogChat2003.html, and I will email the link to the reminder list

PHChristy: Please be sure to join us Monday night at 10 PM Eastern in the Auditorium, when our guest will be Melody Pugh "The Pet Detective". For information on all our Chat Week events, please visit http://www.doghobbyist.com/DogChat.html

TomLonsdale: Christie, thank you again. :-)

PHChristy: Tom, thank YOU! It was a real pleasure!

PHChristy: Thank you everyone for being here!

PHFlea: Thank you Tom!!

PHFlea: Thank you everyone, hope to see you all tomorrow night!!





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