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PHMowgli: Welcome to ShowDog Chat!! Tonights topic showing at specialties

PHChristy: ok folks, I'm going to head out and feed and walk dogs before it gets dark... have a great Showdog Chat and I'll see you next week at Dog Breeding Chat!!

PHMowgli: my vet will let me bring in a fecal and take my word for it as I have used him for yrs and yrs and I have a great relatonship with him but no way for any one else or a new client

MiniSch_nr: Very interested in this topic - showing at specialties.

PHMowgli: ok so what is so different for showing at a speciality rather than an all breed show?

bert_nr: More classes

PHMowgli: bert also you only have your breed so you will almost always have a better lineup of dogs competeing against you

PHMowgli: also you will have more pro's which means better grooming and higher quality handling itself typically

bert_nr: We get alot of "extra" events too

PHMowgli: yes plus the concessions are centered around your breed not all breeds

bert_nr: We don't get that many pros for our breed. Probably about 5 of them handling the top dogs

PHMowgli: Welcome to ShowDog Chat!! Tonights topic showing at specialties

PHMowgli: ah but you said it the top dogs

MiniSch_nr: At our specialties we often have classes that at other shows would be majors.

PHMowgli: almost always you have a major at a speciality

bert_nr: Yeh, but unfortuantely those "top dogs" are usually not the best dogs

Ruby_nr: Those are the shows that tell you how your breeding program measures up.

bert_nr: Oh for sure Mow

PHMowgli: ruby you should have been here last week when discussed style ( fads) versus standards LOL

PHMowgli: Welcome to ShowDog Chat!! Tonights topic showing at specialties

MiniSch_nr: I usually enter my puppies in the puppy class, but for the upcoming specialty I will have two puppies the same age that are both very nice. What classes would you enter them in?

bert_nr: At Carlisle two years ago Kyrie ended up stand 5th in the bredby class of 32....... that's usually the entire Sam entry around here

Ruby_nr: Yes, you see a lot of the fads at specialities too. Too many in fact

bert_nr: Actually larger

bert_nr: It would depend on the puppy Mini

PHMowgli: brb sorry guys gotta potty

bert_nr: I'ven know pups to be entered in Open because they were large and mature and I've seen them finish that way

Ruby_nr: I think the only good thing about specialities is you get to showcase your puppies and advertise your stud dog.

bert_nr: We are leading off with a packhike on Monday

MiniSch_nr: I know that I will enter one in the puppy class - will be barely 9 months old.

bert_nr: Agility Tuesday Obedience and Futurity Wed.

PHMowgli: ok back

bert_nr: Oops forgot the Herding is on Mon & Tues. Weightpulll Mon nite for Novice and a sanctioned pull Tues nite

PHMowgli: oh sounds fun bert ours runs for a week straight also

MiniSch_nr: Probably will enter the other in Bred-by. Do not usually like to compete against myself, but I want to enter their sire in Stud Dog so both must be entered in classes.

bert_nr: I've got three in Agility this year and two in Obedience

MiniSch_nr: I am not going to make it to our National this year because my bitch is due that week.

PHMowgli: I only have merlin entered this yr in agility and obedience also no conformation this yr for me

MiniSch_nr: Wow Bert - do you run them all yourself?

PHMowgli: but Ihave to say specialties are a great place to evaluate dogs you may want to use in your breeding programs also

MiniSch_nr: Yes, I always like to go to the specialties because you often have your chance to get your hands on the dogs that you might want to use later.

PHMowgli: and you can learn from some of the top handlers of the breed handling and grooming techniques as well as take in seminars and other activites

PHMowgli: Once again I want to remind everyone if you have a brag yell out to share it with us

bert_nr: Sorry was gone for a moment ..... yes I run them all

bert_nr: Kyrie runs EX and her littermate Tally is just starting Nov Their dam is running in Open JWW Preferred this year ....... it will probably be her last year to compete.......... but I thought that last year

MiniSch_nr: I am just starting agility. I love it and so does my boy. Missed a lot of classes when the last litter of pups was born because they were premature. Hoping to be able to attend more classes and start competing.

PHMowgli: agility is so much fun for the dogs

bert_nr: BTW their ages are 9 , 9 & 14 my baby at 19months isn't competing for a couple years yet.

PHMowgli: merlin just turned 1 yr old on the 8th of august

MiniSch_nr: I stay pretty close to home when I have new pups - don't even go to the shows because I am afraid I would bring something home so I won't be able to get really serious until end of November.

MiniSch_nr: My bitch is due the end of September.

PHMowgli: I am same way mini

bert_nr: brb

PHMowgli: Welcome to ShowDog Chat!! Tonights topic showing at specialties

PHMowgli: if you have a brag to share yell it out to us

MiniSch_nr: I am a little worried about our specialty in Chicago in February - heard they are having a run of distemper there.

PHMowgli: ok I have a brag Squeeker an 8 yr old bitch bred herself and I am due to have a litter on oct 5th

PHMowgli: mini but that is not till feb and if your dogs are vaccinated they will be safe

PHMowgli: no I did not plan this breeding it was an accident

bert_nr: HA ha ha......Mow

MiniSch_nr: Is it a good breeding - one you would have done later but she beat you to it.

PHMowgli: squeeker was in my bitch pen and merlin was in agility run he jumped off the a-frame into the bitch pen and did his thing by the time I ran through gates it was too late

PHMowgli: mini I would have done the breeding had she been younger but I do not like to breed 8 yr old bitches

bert_nr: She who said she was done breeding..........lol

bert_nr: Smart boy that one......

MiniSch_nr: Yes, I didn't catch that. I don't like to breed them that old either. I just spayed the mother of my 4 1/2 month old puppies - 3rd litter, she is 6 1/2 and she had such a hard time this time with her milk not coming in.

MiniSch_nr: Good luck with your girl.

PHMowgli: bert I actually had 2 litters planned yet now I get 3 LOL

PHMowgli: Welcome to ShowDog Chat!! Tonights topic showing at specialties

PHMowgli: hey ya dc

dogcaps: Howdy folks

bert_nr: Hi DC

MiniSch_nr: howdy

bert_nr: oops didn't mean to yell

PHMowgli: I am still planning the last 2 litters for dec bert then I retired honestly would I lie to you LOL

dogcaps: i will forgive you this time bert

bert_nr: Yeh yeh yeh............ well you can send me a pup to keep Sir company since you'll have extras...LOL

PHMowgli: Welcome to ShowDog Chat!! Tonights topic showing at specialties

dogcaps: howdy chesters

GAChesters: Hi room!

bert_nr: Hi Chesters

GAChesters: hey DC

PHMowgli: tell us your brags if you got em

GAChesters: howdy bert!

GAChesters: OH geez

PHMowgli: sure bert no problem but it will be a bitch pup LOL

bert_nr: geez/

GAChesters: Thursday one of my kids took WB at her very first show from the 6-9 puppy class

GAChesters: got her first 2 points

dogcaps: cool ga

bert_nr: ? having punctuation trouble LOL

GAChesters: Friday her littermate took WD

MiniSch_nr: Yea - congratulations Chesters

bert_nr: I LOVE bitches......... much better than those sneaky fence jumping males

GAChesters: Saturday the littermate took WD and BOV from the 6-9 puppy class beating the #1 TMT. A bitch pup I own got WB and her first major

dogcaps: just wanted to pop in and say howdy since I haven't been here for a while. ya'll take care!

GAChesters: Sunday. The bitch I own took WB + BOV beating the 2 top 10 specials including the #1 TMT

MiniSch_nr: I bet you were are on cloud nine

PHMowgli: ha ha bert LOL

GAChesters: still haven't quite hit the ground minisch

PHMowgli: is that all GAC?? no championships finished in one weekend???

PHMowgli: by the way everyone but GAC that was a joke

GAChesters: HAHA hardly Mow. They weren't 5pointers unfortunately. But they all have points now

PHMowgli: meanwhile we will have to keep pulling on your string to keepyou grounded LOL

GAChesters: so 2 I bred and 1 I own had a fabulouso weekend

MiniSch_nr: don't you just love it when the babies win - I will always remember my first home bred champion winning a 5 point major at our local specialty - after my mentor told me that he was just a baby and I couldn't expect him to win. He finished at 10 months old.

GAChesters: I pulled my special and ended up ringside the entire weekend enjoying the wins with the owners

GAChesters: It was just as good as being in the ring myself

PHMowgli: yeah but beau is sick

GAChesters: Yea poor kid. He's eating marginally better, but still not great

PHMowgli: I like to watch almost as much as I like to win LOL

PHMowgli: but winning is always the most fun LOL

GAChesters: well it was nerve wracking! LOL But I can deal with that kind of stress

MiniSch_nr: I have high hopes for his daughters - they are 4 1/2 months old.

PHMowgli: oh awesome mini

PHMowgli: hey where did DC go LOL

MiniSch_nr: Is beau your special?

PHMowgli: come one everyone talk to me

bert_nr: Eating my supper

PHMowgli: yes beau is GAC's special he has some tummy problems from fire ants

MiniSch_nr: Oh no - did he try to eat them?

bert_nr: did he eat them or get bitten?

PHMowgli: he apparently did eat some

PHMowgli: and he has bites on his face too

PHMowgli: which is why he had to be pulled from the show

PHMowgli: he was not eating well for the past week since he gotten into an ant hill

MiniSch_nr: GAC - are you min pins?

GAChesters: oh crud sorry folks

GAChesters: he got bitten then didn't seem to recover very well even after he healed

GAChesters: the fire ants messed up his whole system even after they healed

GAChesters: we are giving him antibiotics and something to reset his tummy

GAChesters: and THEN 2 of my girls are coming into season. Poor kid is a mess! haha

MiniSch_nr: Wow, where did he get into fire ants

PHMowgli: GAC I figured the storms had you booted LOL

GAChesters: Backyard mini. Even tho we treat the mounds, the fire ants live under the grass. They like to dig it up and snuffle under it.

MiniSch_nr: I am sure glad we don't get them here - we don't even have fleas

bert_nr: Storms?? what storms?? for a change today was gorgeous........ mid 70's breezy

GAChesters: They are evil and mean

bert_nr: Is Frances going to hit you Chesters?

GAChesters: I gotta check the storm track folks. Looks like we might be getting a hirycane

PHMowgli: ok guys we need a topic for next week

GAChesters: could be bert....coming too danged close for comfort

GAChesters: It looks like it will hit south but then swing around and kiss us from the inland side

bert_nr: Did Charlie get you?

GAChesters: No. Charlie was on the Gulf side. I am on the ocean side

MiniSch_nr: I am not looking forward to my little girls going into season - starting to watch them and my males very closely because don't want an accidental breeding - I have their full brother and their father. May have to send them off to visit friends cause it looks like they will be in season and my bitch will be having pups about the same time.

GAChesters: Just barely barely into GA

PHMowgli: oh Gac you better e-mail me to let me know everythingis ok as soon as possible after it goes through there

GAChesters: IF it continues on the same path, Mow I will load up the dogs tomorrow and amscray

PHMowgli: next weeks topic?? come on people give me some hints here

PHMowgli: good chesters

GAChesters: I am not waiting around only to get stuck in the hideous traffic

GAChesters: I split my house and yard mini, but the boys still can smell......LOL

bert_nr: I know friends in FL are semi packed so they can just grab their dogs and go

GAChesters: no oops here thanks

MiniSch_nr: Good luck GAC - my hope is that it doesn't come close to you, but better to be safe and be packed than sorry.

GAChesters: yea bert, I filled up the motorhome tonight. Will load all the crates tomorrow based on weather

PHMowgli: Chesters just head up here

PHMowgli: topics?? still waiting

bert_nr: They stayed though Charlie but sent their human kids to grandma further inland.

GAChesters: http://firstcoastnews.com/weather/stormtrackupdate.aspx

GAChesters: this is not good

MiniSch_nr: I was in Wilmington, NC when Hugo hit just 90 miles down the coast. I will never forget.

GAChesters: sure Mow......LOL I'll swing through New York and then onto your house

GAChesters: my little dog in Grand Rapids is due to fly here tomorrow night!! eek

PHMowgli: how about if we do camping at shows??

GAChesters: I got a gripe from this weekend's shows

GAChesters: one of the prof handlers was in group grandstanding big time. Kept blocking one of the owner handlers. It made us all mad

MiniSch_nr: We waited too long and couldn't get off the island the hotel was on. Storm took the stairs out that went down to the beach. Spent 3 days with partial power. Never been so scared in my life.

PHMowgli: oh no chesters

GAChesters: oh geez I bet mini

GAChesters: I went up to that owner handler and told her to feed the prof handlers dog! hahaha it was after group tho

PHMowgli: ha ha

GAChesters: If ya'll looked at the map link, I am just barely north of Jacksonville, FL

GAChesters: Right on the coast (Gulp)

bert_nr: Who was the hanler

GAChesters: I dunno her name......

bert_nr: handler

bert_nr: I tried to look and it said error

MiniSch_nr: What breed - we can look it up. Good to know what you are in for

GAChesters: I doubt she was listed in the catalog as agent mini

bert_nr: eek it just came up........ it looks like it's going straight up the middle of the state

GAChesters: www.firstcoastnews.com then click on stormtrack

GAChesters: yea....not good bert

PHMowgli: the map froze me LOL

GAChesters: I am just barely across the GA state line north of Jacksonville......right on the water

GAChesters: maybe 2 miles from shore

PHMowgli: wow it is gonna hit you monday chesters

GAChesters: yea--isn't that something mow.....a day later than they thought earlier

bert_nr: maybe being inland will kill it fast

GAChesters: which means I gotta get outta here before south florida evacuates

GAChesters: they evacuated almost the entire eastern seaboard coupla years ago--it was a nightmare

bert_nr: Do you have somewher to go?

GAChesters: the roads were at a total standstill for hours and hours

GAChesters: well ironically bert, I am entered in a show this weekend in Raleigh, NC

PHMowgli: dang yeah leave tomorrow better safe than sorry

GAChesters: unfortunately hubby has to stay here until the base has its mandatory evacuation

bert_nr: Yeh well you better keep coming north cause it looks like it could be following you

GAChesters: luckily Raliegh is far enough inland to miss the worse of it

PHMowgli: yes but at least you and dogs can get out

bert_nr: I'm just south of Lake Erie.......... pretty safe from hurricanes here.

GAChesters: haha true bert.

PHMowgli: ok guys how about first aid at a dog show?? for next weeks topic??

bert_nr: We just get the backwash........

GAChesters: oh geez more show news from perry

GAChesters: apparently a rott attacked Dr Smith (the one armed judge) and bit his good hand

GAChesters: meanwhile the owners had a bitch in a crate ringside......WHELPING

MiniSch_nr: That sounds like a good topic - first aid at a dog show.

bert_nr: Ooooo that's BAD

GAChesters: animal control + cops showed up......poor Dr Smith was in group all bandaged up

PHMowgli: OMG well I do not like him anyway he is a rotten judge LOL

GAChesters: he is good to me, Mow :)

bert_nr: What show was that at Chesteres

GAChesters: Perry, GA bert

PHMowgli: GAC he is the judge that pinched Ruegers testicle

GAChesters: I hope that owner got a huge bench fine and suspension

GAChesters: oh eww mow

bert_nr: Oh..........lol.......... I thought perry was a person

GAChesters: hahahah. 4 day show bert

MiniSch_nr: Wow - bring a bitch in whelp to a show. Must not care about their dogs at all - that is asking for a bunch of dead puppies.

GAChesters: and ringside to boot!

PHMowgli: the judge has a tendedcy to pinch males and he prolly deserved to be bit but now the dog is DQ'd for lif

GAChesters: I don't know details Mow I wasn't there

bert_nr: Suppose I'd better go check my email I'm supposed to move a rescue this week.

GAChesters: ok folks--me going to get up early and see the weather and start packing in earnest

bert_nr: Shiowing Frances on TV now

PHMowgli: hey we still need a topic

MiniSch_nr: First Aid?

GAChesters: first aid........

PHMowgli: no-one leaves this room without a topic ont he table for next week

bert_nr: I thought you picked one

GAChesters: I got nailed by fire ants this weekend also :(

GAChesters: my feet got approx 45 bites. We counted

bert_nr: Fire ants deterrants!!!

GAChesters: there was a mound, but it had been treated and I didn't go near it

MiniSch_nr: Must be the weekend for dog bites - apparently a skiperkee was bitten by an Irish Wolf Hound at the Elgin shows - had to be put down

PHMowgli: ok first aid at dog shows how does everyone feel about that??

bert_nr: k

PHMowgli: wow mini

GAChesters: wow.

MiniSch_nr: Everyone bring their list of what should go in their first aid kit for the dog show.

GAChesters: well I will try and be here

PHMowgli: yes good idea mini

PHMowgli: ok everyone lets all head out to ur doggies

bert_nr: Nite nite

MiniSch_nr: I will also try to be there - I start a new job tomorrow so who knows what my schedule will be. TTYL

PHMowgli: ok mini have a good holiday weekend