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PHFang: Welcome to Show Dog Chat!! Tonight’s Topic is “Getting Started”

PHMowgli: alright every one brag if you got one

PHMowgli: Ok well I have a brag not a huge one but a brag LOL Merlin finally after 2 wasted weekends got a qualifying score toward his CDX

PHMorgan: OH - Ok - Scarlett got her 2nd CD leg with a 191 this past weekend. And reserve to a 5 point major. (ARG)

PHMorgan: Tucker got reserve as well....

PHFang: whohoooo Mow! Way to go Merlin

PHMorgan: SIGH

PHFang: UGH sorry morgan

PHMowgli: awesome Morgan

Mernie: Well my male has his working dog title through the AMCA and the IWPA. My 2 year old got her AMCA working title at the age of 17 months. She had to pull 12 times her body weight at 4 different pulls.

PHMorgan: wahoo, Mow!

dogcaps: sniff, i don't have any brags

PHMorgan: That is GREAT, Mernie

PHFang: WOW Mernie! 12 times her body weight? Dang I can't do that

PHMorgan: OK - GOing now

PHMorgan: Night guys

PHMowgli: Good job mernie

PHMowgli: well you know what really pleased me about tonights brags???

sporty_nr: what

PHFang: Welcome to Show Dog Chat!! Tonight’s Topic is “Getting Started”

dogcaps: what?

PHMowgli: they involved all different venues of dog showing

PHFang: Hi Bassett

PHFang: Yes true Mow

PHMowgli: not all conformation and not just akc events it just goes to show you we all have a common interest even if they waver slightly

Mernie: My male has earned 3 of his legs on his working dog excellent title- he has to pull 23 times his body weight and be in the upper 3rd percentile of his weight class.

PHFang: What breed mernie?

Mernie: Alaskan malamutes, my male weighs 90 lbs. - he's pulled 2,265 lbs. as his personal best in under a minute.

dogcaps: brb

PHMowgli: OMG mernie

PHFang: Hole cow Mernie that's just incredible

Mernie: My 65 lbs. bitch has pulled 1,020 lbs.

bassetmom_nr: what kind of training do you have to do to get a dog to do that much weight?

sporty_nr: husky/wolf or coyote

PHMowgli: oh basset I did not see you literally

PHMowgli: your name is not in my list LOL

bassetmom_nr: its okay i am new and will prob just lurk

PHFang: Feel free to chime in basset!

Mernie: started out with tires and added window weights to the tire.

PHMowgli: basset do you show?

bassetmom_nr: i mess in the obedience ring with a basset and a clumber

bassetmom_nr: not very successfully yet

PHFang: well that's kewl basset

Mernie: I know what you mean, my male only has 3 points on him.

PHMowgli: oh great basset any brags you want to share with us maybe a qualifying round or a great down stay well pretty much anything is accepted

Mernie: good for you, keep it up.

Mernie: okay, shoot.

PHFang: Welcome to Show Dog Chat!! Tonight’s Topic is “Getting Started”

PHFang: hi shaggy

Mernie: Hi shaggy

PHFang: Does anybody here show conformation?

PHMowgli: Hey shaggy

sporty_nr: hi shaggy

shaggydog443120: hello everybody

Mernie: I do, but still learning

PHMowgli: I do I do fang

PHMowgli: ok where does everyone show their dogs?

PHFang: Do you remember the first time in the ring Mow?

PHFang: I sure do.....OY I was skert

PHMowgli: OMg I was so afraid

PHFang: Not sure what to do with my hands and then I needed like 12 more LOL

Mernie: Mainly in Ohio.

PHMowgli: I was shaking and my dog got so scared because of me and she refused to walk in the ring on leash LOL

PHFang: Southeast US...Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas

PHFang: LOLOL Mow

PHMowgli: th ejudge must have gone over her head a million times and freaked her even more LOL

Mernie: That''s okay, my first time in the ring was a fiasco!

PHMowgli: that show was in Flint Michigan a huge indoor show

PHFang: It was so hard at first to know when to stay in the ring and when to come out

PHFang: Welcome to Show Dog Chat!! Tonight’s Topic is “Getting Started”

PHFang: Hi Ty

PHMowgli: oh eyah we took second in class and I walked out without my ribbon and the judge got real pissy LOL

TyTingsMom: Hello

PHFang: LOL Mow

PHMowgli: but I did not know second in class got a ribbon then LOL

Mernie: My bait fell out of my bait bag when I was running around the ring.

PHFang: Do you show dogs Ty?

shaggydog443120: awww now come on you guys you are scaring me to death

PHFang: oh dang Mernie that could be bad for those behind you

PHFang: It's all good shaggy :)

TyTingsMom: No...sorry new to board think I am in wrong room.

PHFang: Are you just getting started shaggy?

Mernie: Yeah but I had nothing to bait Blade with (my male).

PHMowgli: shaggy the point is we lived through it and we all realized that it was not life or death and it is just a dog show and it can be fun and no point in panicking over something so small LOL

PHFang: And it's MUCH funnier now than it was then...LOL

Mernie: So true!

PHMowgli: oh yeah then it was not funny it was scary LOL

PHFang: Thank goodness you learn to just laugh..we've all been there done that at least once

Mernie: Just remeber, we all go through it at one time.

PHMowgli: my most embarrasing show was when the judge told me to take my dog in a tiny circle under the canopy

shaggydog443120: why did he do that?

PHFang: OH heck at my very first match, I was asked to do a triangle......Oh I did one alright--BACKWARDS!!!!! lmao

PHMowgli: well the canopy was only like 6x4' mind you not much room for a full size collie so I did this and the judge meant outside the canopy and got all pissy cause I did it

Mernie: I was a last minute substitution, my husband hurt himself the 1st day of a 4 day show.

PHFang: OH dear Mow......LOL

PHFang: Welcome to Show Dog Chat!! Tonight’s Topic is “Getting Started”

PHFang: Hi parrish

PHMowgli: then to make matters worse after that my collie decided she did not like the judge and started bouncing around the ring like a dang bunny rabbit

Parrish_nr: Getting started

PHMowgli: hey parrish

PHFang: oops parrish fell off

PHFang: LOL good one Mow

Mernie: I'm looking into going to handling classes.

PHFang: Funny how dogs like some judges and not others at first look huh

PHMowgli: what suprised me is she took reserve LOL

PHFang: oh great idea Merie

PHFang: Mernie

PHFang: wb parrish

Mernie: Yes?

PHMowgli: yes handling classes are awesome for both owners and dogs

sporty_nr: im bored

Parrish_nr: what happened? I am kinda new at this

shaggydog443120: i csn just picture that mowgli bet you were embaressed lol

PHMowgli: sorry parrish you fell

PHFang: sorry Mernie I misspelled your name before so I retyped it

Parrish_nr: Ihahaha

sporty_nr: im knew too

PHMowgli: a bit shaggy

PHFang: You fell off parrish....hope it didn't hurt

Parrish_nr: so what does everyone show?

PHMowgli: shelties here parrish

PHFang: Toy Manchesters

Mernie: Oh okay, I show malamutes

Parrish_nr: Shelties are waaaay to smart for me

shaggydog443120: C hihuahuas here

PHMowgli: how about you parrish?

Parrish_nr: oh oh, I need to be in the dumb dog chatroom

PHFang: shaggy your avatar is one of my dogs btw...LOL

Parrish_nr: I show Danes

PHFang: OH kewl parrish! I love Danes

shaggydog443120: sorry about my finger sliped

PHMowgli: oh well danes although not the smartest dogs they have size on their side LOL

Parrish_nr: are we all newbies?

PHFang: Welcome to Show Dog Chat!! Tonight’s Topic is “Getting Started”

sporty_nr: hi

PHFang: hi thorn

Parrish_nr: size and big tongues!!!

PHMowgli: Well Fang and I aren't parrish

shaggydog443120: i am

Mernie: I think pretty much.

PHMowgli: hey thorn how are you tonight

Mernie: Hi Thorn

PHMowgli: Ok for all our new chatters any brags to share???

sporty_nr: im new at this.

PHFang: Anybody want to ask newbie show questions? We can help!

Parrish_nr: I took a Breed in Owensboro, KY owner handled, the second time I have ever done it

shaggydog443120: fang you raise min pins?

PHFang: Cuz we have been there done that! LOL

sporty_nr: byebye

PHFang: No shaggy that's a Toy Manchester

PHMowgli: oh great Parrish congrats!!!

PHFang: whohoooo congrats Parrish!

Parrish_nr: that was pretty cool

shaggydog443120: oooooops sorry about that

Parrish_nr: (Course, I was the only special there, shhhhhh)

PHFang: It's a great feeling isn't it parrish

PHMowgli: so does anyone have any questions on what do to or where to go or how to fill something out or what you need to take anything at all just ask away

PHFang: LOL

Mernie: Yes, actually I have a handling question- how do you get a dog to run in the ring when the only place he runs is everywhere BUT the ring!

Parrish_nr: I want to get better at handling, and I am curious about seminars or handling classes

PHMowgli: Parrish well to start with a finished dog make it easy to get the feel of showing

shaggydog443120: i do what kind of leash do you use and were do you get them?

PHFang: Mernie....lots of practice..LOL

PHFang: I use either a resco or small choke shaggy and I buy them at the shows

PHFang: Handling classes are often a great place to learn and train your dog parrish

Mernie: I have gotten some at shows, some in Cherrybrooke.

PHMowgli: Mernie one of the things most handlers need to remember leave the lead slack and just begin moving and allow the dog to move behind you if that is what it takes

Parrish_nr: well, the dog is trained, and I am not new, but I want to be able to compete with the big boys

PHFang: Well parrish, unfortunately that will take lots of "face" time. The prof handlers are seen a lot and the judges remember them

PHFang: One of the downsides to dog shows is that we stand side by side with prof handlers who spend a LOT of money to advertise their dogs etc

PHMowgli: Pro handlers know which judges to show which dog under

PHFang: And judges know the big handlers will bring 15-20 dogs to a show unlike owner/handlers who might bring 1-3

Mernie: He's got personality (lots of it), he just doesn't want to run in the ring.

PHMowgli: and they are being paid and the more they win the more they make so they have even ore motivation that we do

Parrish_nr: it just irritates me to lose because I am not known, and I really really want to never be "outhandled"

PHFang: What does he do mernie?

sporty_nr: hi

PHFang: Yea that's the tough part of specialing parrish.....it's hard to compete with the big guns

Parrish_nr: wish I had a nearly dead rich sugar daddy to back me.....

PHMowgli: Parrish watch the pro's in your breed and you will see little things they do that you can emulate to make you win more I often video the pro's to pick up tips

PHFang: You might have the better dog, but the prof handler is "known" and will often win becuase of that in the specials ring

PHFang: LOL me too parrish..if you find one, see if he has a brother

Parrish_nr: hahaha,

Mernie: I drags behind like we are moving too slow for him, he doesn't extend his rear legs like he should.

PHFang: I like to watch the pros in the groups parrish to pick up tips

PHMowgli: Fang you are married so Parrish send him my way LOL

Parrish_nr: ha...now, we will have to learn to share LOL

PHFang: Mernie.......I often buddy walk my kids with older, seasoned dogs to give them the confidence to move out

PHFang: dang Mow..details details

PHMowgli: Parrish tell ya what just get 1 major rich guy to back us all LOL

PHFang: say there's a thought Mow

PHFang: [img id=em-5]

Parrish_nr: you know, the ruff thing is: all that money and for what? Ranking.....

Mernie: He's confident outside the ring, just not where it counts- in the ring.

PHFang: Yes Parrish exactly

Parrish_nr: hard to justify

PHMowgli: yep parrish but it is something we must enjoy or we would not keep going back LOL

shaggydog443120: well i guess i'm shot down before i even get started [img id=em-2]

PHFang: That's hard to instill Mernie....confidence in the ring. it can come with time/age

Parrish_nr: we are nuts

PHFang: na shaggy we're talking specials here...not class dogs

PHMowgli: shaggy why is that?

Parrish_nr: Mernie, do you take your dog to handling classes anywhere?

Parrish_nr: where you can take him in the ring and just "play" so he will know it is fun?

Mernie: no just masochistic tendencies!

PHMowgli: shaggy we are talking about dogs who are already champions like the dogs at westminster

PHMowgli: even matches are great way to get a dog more confident

shaggydog443120: oh ok sorry i miss understood

Parrish_nr: Oh, Shaggy, don't feel that way,

Mernie: No not yet, I just heard of ones that have different judges every week.

PHMowgli: plus we are relaxed at matches so dogs tend ot relax and show off more till we all get confident

PHFang: true Mow.......and seriously buddy walking the less confident ones have given my dogs tremendous confidence. Esp if I can walk them near the rings like during groups

Parrish_nr: in the classes it is not as hard, really!

PHMowgli: in the classes you can get a pretty fair share in most breeds

PHFang: shaggy unless you are into dobes, almost anybody can owner/handle a dog to obtain it's championship

PHMowgli: what breed do you have shaggy?

shaggydog443120: Chihuahua

PHFang: oh shaggy, you can owner/handle your dog then

PHMowgli: oh well see chi's are failry easy to get started

PHFang: It's not that cut throat in chis

Parrish_nr: and in the classes, you are usually just competing against a few....and if you win the class, it is a big help to boost your confidence

PHMowgli: chi's are one of the best breeds for owner handlers

PHFang: right parrish

PHMowgli: yep and of course you have to get a quilt full of reserves when you first start out it is a rule LOL

Mernie: What's funny is my little red & white mal bitch who has yet to go into the ring has the show attitude down pat.

Parrish_nr: in fact, I think it is fun just to beat ANYbody...third out of four is sometimes enough!!!!

PHMowgli: yes parrish it is LOL

shaggydog443120: i have been told that chis are natural show offs

PHFang: yes at times parrish it sure is

PHMowgli: it is our competitive spirit

PHFang: yes shaggy they are very showy

PHFang: do you have a long hair or smooth coat chi shaggy?

PHMowgli: Ok who else has enough reserve ribbons to make a quilt?

shaggydog443120: smooth

PHFang: Good, shaggy then grooming is easy! lol

Parrish_nr: me me, I am gonna make wallpaper outta reserve ribbons

Mernie: I have enough for a coupple of pillows at least.

Parrish_nr: They are the "kiss your brother" award

PHFang: Oh Sorry Mow....I don't have many reserves.....

PHFang: Best of Losers........LOL

Parrish_nr: hahaha, that's funny

PHMowgli: ok well I just bought this really nice rope and I know a nice tree we can use to hang PHFang from LOL

shaggydog443120: he is a chocolate with a perfect white diamond on his neck thus he earned the name Diamond Jim Beedy

MiniSch_nr: I think I have enough reserve ribbons to make a quilt.

Mernie: I'm envious! It takes me an hour to get Blade ready for show.

PHFang: [img id=em-5]

PHFang: LOL thanx Mow

PHMowgli: ha an hour it takes me 3 weeks

PHMowgli: try showing long coated breeds LOL

Mernie: That's just bushing him out!

PHFang: OH geez I am really gonna need the flame suit now.....including toenails and whiskers it takes me MAYBE 20 mins

PHMowgli: who are smarter than the judges LOL

PHMowgli: PHMowgli is now tieing the rope into a noose

PHFang: LMAO Mow.......sorry!! I like my short coated dogs for a reason

shaggydog443120: oh oh fang better run

PHFang: yup shaggy you'd better run with me with your chis

PHMowgli: yeah we will get shaggy next LOL

MiniSch_nr: We start stripping 12 weeks before the show we want to enter with most miniature schnauzers.

PHFang: EWW stripping....now that's a nightmare

shaggydog443120: ok ready lets go!!!!!!!!

MiniSch_nr: And the day of the show it takes be about 1 1/2 hours a dog to get them ready to go in the ring.

PHMowgli: well then see mini is with me LOL

PHFang: So what is your favorite bait?

Mernie: WOW!!!

MiniSch_nr: I really like "Great Bait"

PHFang: My special is sooo picky. One day he wants cheese, the next day no he wants hot dogs

shaggydog443120: chicken my dogs love chicken

PHMowgli: well peanuts work for all my dogs

PHFang: I have to pack a smorgasboard of bait for my boy

PHFang: ugh

PHFang: or he will patooey it in the ring

PHMowgli: yes my dogs work for peanuts LOL

Mernie: Homemade liver, haven't tried chicken. String cheese sometimes.

PHFang: He also seems to prefer anything the person next to me has.......LOL

PHMowgli: but beef jerky is a good standy for most dogs

Parrish_nr: if you need something to really motivate, use braunsweiger

PHMowgli: and popcorn is a good one somedays

Parrish_nr: liver cheese.....

PHFang: I wondered about that parrish, but it's soo gooey

PHFang: I hate anything gooey in my hands/pocket

Mernie: How do you keep the braunsweiger from getting all over your hands?

PHMowgli: see my dogs will only bait for something I am eating LOL

PHFang: Tried that also Mow......but it only works sometimes for him

PHMowgli: so I eat the peanuts and they get 1 or 2 to keep focus on me LOL

Parrish_nr: you keep freeze dried liver in a bag with a dab of it in the bag

PHFang: And how does that dry out the liverwurst parrish?

PHMowgli: fang you do not feed the liverwurst only the liver

PHFang: Oh.........I R stuid.....LOL

PHFang: stupid even

PHFang: and can't type

PHMowgli: must be contagious LOL

PHFang: LOL

Mernie: Me too!!!

PHMowgli: ok what is your favorite type of show?

PHMowgli: all breed, specialty, indoor , outdoor

PHMowgli: I prefer outdoor all breed shows myself

Mernie: all breed, outdoor.

PHMowgli: my dogs seem more relaxed and do better

PHMowgli: Mernie you show in Ohio right?

PHFang: all breed indoor (it's danged hot in the south)

Mernie: Yes.

shaggydog443120: i don't know what is the best one for a beginer?

PHMowgli: have you ever gone to columbus shows those are a nightmare

PHFang: Small shows with small entries shaggy

PHFang: IMO

PHMowgli: shaggy I like to start at small shows myself

PHMowgli: or matches and work up to larger shows

Mernie: I've been to a couple, hated Canfield worse- they don't take care of their grounds.

PHMowgli: the cleveland classic is nice but crowded

Mernie: Yep, I live 20 minutes away from Cleveland.

Parrish_nr: Sorry, got distracted....no, the liverwurst just flavors the rest of the dried stuff,....it has been a godsend for me'

shaggydog443120: i live in Akron Ohio does any one know of any shows close to ther?

PHMowgli: Cobo Hall in Detroit is awful all that time wasted in benching area

PHMowgli: shaggy lots of shows

PHFang: Thanks for the tip shaggy I will try it......I love liverwurst.....LOL Maybe I will try drying some

PHMowgli: Ohio is full of shows

PHMowgli: http://www.infodog.com

PHMowgli: shaggy go there and do a search by state and find the shows you can go to

Mernie: During the summer, there seems like there's one every weekend.

shaggydog443120: ok thanks mowgli

PHMowgli: isn't there one in Toledo this coming weekend Mernie?

Mernie: I love liverwurst too, I'm going to have a hard time keeping me and my husband from eating it.

PHFang: LOL maybe I should make Beau a liverwurst sandwich

PHMowgli: Mernie I like it too and I do eat it and my dogs get it at home if they are training but I never took to a show cause it is so messy LOL

Mernie: I believe so, I know Canfield is at the end of the month.

PHMowgli: Bobbie Jo actually had liverwurst on rye bread tonight after agility training LOL

PHFang: At least the bread would keep my fingers from getting so gooey....LOL imagine standing in the ring eating a sandwich in front of your dog.....LOL

PHMowgli: hey my dogs would bait for it but I bet the judes would get mad LOL

PHFang: Well heck, we eat their bait alll the time....LOL

Mernie: I hear the Canadian and UKC show are great, any one have any expierences?

PHMowgli: specially when you say just a sec I need a drink LOL

PHMowgli: Oh mernie I love the International and UKC shows

PHFang: I have not myself Mernie, I have a Canadian Ch but I didn't show her. I have done IABCA shows tho

PHFang: I have several Int'l CH

PHFang: and am going again in August

Mernie: I like mine with sweet pickles and mayo.

PHMowgli: the Canadian are fun also

PHFang: Yea and Mow is gonna take Ross up for his Canadian CH for me one day......LOL

PHMowgli: merlin has 2 canadian titles herding and obedience and working on his agility now

PHMowgli: in sept we are gonna hit the IABKC show in chicago

PHFang: Welcome to Show Dog Chat!! Tonight’s Topic is “Getting Started”

PHMowgli: hey lopez

PHFang: funMow!

Mernie: my girlfriend says I should do agility with my little red bitch, (she's on the small side) how do you get started?

LOPEZ_nr: hey

PHMowgli: ok before we run out of time we need a topic for next weeks chat any ideas?

Mernie: Hi Lopez.

PHFang: I'd find an agility school and start training there mernie

PHMowgli: Mernie I got started byt taking a basic agility class 6 weeks local and then I worked at home alot onwhat I could then I entered a trial boy was I dumb then LOL but we had fun and I learned alot and then started to qualify LOL

PHFang: How about what to take to the show.....essentials and non-essentials

PHMowgli: you mean like tables and crates and mats and etc etc etc fang?

PHFang: yea

Mernie: That's a great idea!

PHMowgli: well isn't everything you can fit essential LOL

PHFang: LOLOL yea! In reality all you REALLY need is dog, bait and leash....but what else

Mernie: Although, wouldn't it be different for each breed?

PHFang: I would think so Mernie

PHMowgli: but yes great idea and I also have some great links on how to build some of the items we will discuss and I will post the links as they apply

PHFang: But when you are just getting started it's hard to know what you are really going to need

PHFang: kewl Mow

PHFang: And it depends if you have a motorhome, commute, or stay in a hotel

PHMowgli: from ex-pens to tables and tack boxes and everything in between

Mernie: How about what products work best for what problems? Like whitening shampoos, brushes, grooming aids.

PHMowgli: are they essential and where can you get them?

PHFang: Essential products

PHFang: ok everybody I will see you next week!

PHFang: Nite

Mernie: Nite

PHMowgli: Ok so how aobut this: Showing products are they essential and where can you get them?

LOPEZ_nr: holly cow vet bills r expensive

PHMowgli: Lopez not really

PHMowgli: I take it your new dog went to vet LOL

LOPEZ_nr: gosh my vet ran a fecal test and it was 28.50

shaggydog443120: nite everyone catch you latter

PHMowgli: nite shaggy

PHMowgli: Lopez so how is your dog doing?

LOPEZ_nr: and he has kennle cough and it was 32$ for 2 medications

LOPEZ_nr: not bad actually

PHMowgli: no that isn't bad at all

Mernie: nite everyone!

LOPEZ_nr: she is shy but slowly coming out of that

PHMowgli: nite mernie

PHMowgli: see ya next week

Mernie: Will be here, bye!

LOPEZ_nr: but when i try to teach her to sit its like na ill just go sniff the plant maby its the treats

PHMowgli: oh good lopez too bad you missed the whole chat tonight LOL

LOPEZ_nr: lol

PHMowgli: how old is she?

LOPEZ_nr: 8mos

PHMowgli: oh well just a baby yet

LOPEZ_nr: ya

PHMowgli: you will want to come to next weeks show dog chat lots of great info on how to build expens and stuff you may need the info soon LOL

LOPEZ_nr: whats a expen

PHMowgli: a portable fenced pen for dogs

PHMowgli: kinda like a playpen for dogs

LOPEZ_nr: o cool

LOPEZ_nr: my dad wants to build a kennle for when we go out for the day

PHMowgli: plus we will tell you how to make a baby gate or where to buy them cheaply

LOPEZ_nr: nad the kennel training is goin well!!!

PHMowgli: ah see you can get all the info right here next week LOL

LOPEZ_nr: ya the crate was 20$ and its big

LOPEZ_nr: i got it at a flea market=

PHMowgli: what is her breed?

PHMowgli: good deal

LOPEZ_nr: border collie shes really mellow for a BC

PHMowgli: lotsof shelters loan out crates too

LOPEZ_nr: ya

LOPEZ_nr: flea marketss give me the hibby gibies

PHMowgli: well I am going to head to bed make sure you come thursday night

PHMowgli: and next tuesday for showdogchat LOL